Design Studios with Jane Meagher
Kevin Oakley’s awesome Market Proof Marketing Podcast
https://www.doyouconvert.com/blog/ep-52-design-studios-with-jane-meagher/
Jane’s interview starts at 32 minutes in. This is a fast-paced but chock-full -of-ideas discussion about the design studio experience and builder opportunities for improvement. Despite originally airing in May 2019, it is all still so true today and absolutely worth a listen!